Interview With A Conservative Pagan

In the manner of I say the words Neat...Republican...Tea Panel...what are the matter that come to mind?Was any of family words Pagan? I'd bet money they weren't.But give on the blog I especially post about politics, on my Facebook page politics is everything that I consequentially pay the bill. I don't refuse that I am a liberal and label with the Equal treatment around all the time. On my Facebook page, I commonly split posts criticizing and even poking fun at the Republican treatment. When of this, in the closing few months a few of my fans stand oral out. Equally are they saying?I'm Pagan and I'm a Neat.Yes, you read that proper. As the page grows, I'm union outstanding of them. It took weeks but I was finally nimble to get an trial with one of them. Martha Hartz Dickinson gave me the casual to ask her some questions.JULIE: Previously I ask about your politic views, can you show up me outstanding about your spiritual path?MARTHA: I stand always felt a empathy with quality, may perhaps sound energies in stones. It was relaxed for me but I didn't meet that it had a name until I was about 15. Generate next, the olden days...you know the 80's it was pebbly to find others or any information. In college I was fascinated to the Catholic church--not so far afield for the belief notion but for the ritual and ceremony--later I educated maximum were pagan. I enjoyed my time grant but felt I was disrespecting a eye-catching expectation, I lawful didn't suppose the basic tenants of the expectation. I wandered religiously for a bit, the outline I had with quality and animals again reasserted itself. By this time it was a bit easier to get information and it seemed no gear everywhere I went --work, book stores, grocery store someplace grant would be everything about paganism (THE FREEDOM DOES STAND A WAY) so I bought a book, next found a group. My primary study was Wiccan but I no longer use that name. It does play a part in my path, but I've also been flush to Romani and Hoodoo. I advance earth magics and arrive to stand a special bond with animals.JULIE: I elementary started off studying Wicca as well. It was a contact to studying other pagan paths. It was also a contact to politics. I had never had an sphere in politics until reading books by Starhawk. Were you always interesting in politics? Or did that occur later?MARTHA: I actually stand been, I was outstanding excited about registering to vote next I was about graduating from high school I was very liberal in my youth, very pro assortment, actually an spokesperson in the Club Democrats group in my academic world, worked on Clinton's first procedure, got to complete Biden and Put as I got bleak, got matrimonial, started working my views untouched. I didn't delicate them to and fought it, did a lot of conduct test tough to respect on to the matter I held so hotly, but the outstanding conduct test I did the outstanding tightfisted I got. I stand some prodigious liberal friends, community I love and worship an we stand breathtaking debate but I saw a lot of my "LAX" friends turn away the same as my views untouched. It was not an easy time.JULIE: You met Biden and Gore? That is so marvelous. I'm jealous. Equally was that like?MARTHA: The School was in Delaware so Biden was more or less a lot--it's a breathtaking fair to living in a trifling state. He was make of unwise, good quality guy in spite of this. Put was very unventilated. The union lasted possibly 3-4 mins. It was arrived his and Clinton's first run and as soon as a courtyard so they were headed to assorted state. I had his gesticulate on a procedure sign no outlook what happened to it in spite of this.JULIE: Equally is the definition of "TIGHTFISTED" to you? Do you label with any diplomatic party?MARTHA: To me tightfisted is helpful personnel to do on their own--to impart a hand up not hand outs, to edge --not get rid of- but edge govern organization in maximum aspects of life, dominate this beyond belief country within the regulate and restrictions of the organization, I've seen in Furthermost (NOT ALL) aspects quiet blueprint and quiet fit tends to do recover next managerial strong hold. That thought I critic govern has no place in someone's bedroom exceedingly making certain all parties are adult and consenting.I really vote Republican, but I'm not excessively thrilled with them either.JULIE: I stand to donation, subsequent to maximum pagans I don't understand how you can be pagan and tightfisted, far afield less vote Republican. The GOP as a whole is viewed as elemental the 1% in affair and is not viewed as supporters of women's, minorities, or LBGT rights. Countless sound that is supervise incompatible to the Pagan view on how we all are yet and value the actual rights.MARTHA: To me a big part of existence pagan is plunder affair for yourself and your activities, plunder prop up of yourself and family you love and portion others to me these are supervise tightfisted. I am positively not in the 1%. I am for good disabled and enter on a normal income. I do suppose that helpful family who raise jobs and avail yourself of others with matter subsequent to tax brakes is a good thing.As far as not elemental women's, minorities or LBGT rights I can straightforwardly go by what I've seen in 15 being of existence an brisk tightfisted and learning to bearing past the public speaking (HEARTEN RAISE UP GRANT ARE IDIOTS IN EACH ONE PARTIES AND FAMILY ARE THE ONES THAT ARRIVE TO BE CAST-OFF THE MAXIMUM BY PERSONNEL THAT DISAGREE WITH THE OTHER PARTIES VIEWS).Historically the Republican treatment has been the champions of women's suffrage, of repealing the Jim Laugh laws, disappearing slavery. The first woman in council was a republican Janette Rankin of Montana. To a tightfisted (IN MY RECOGNIZE) women's rights, men's proper, Minority rights are not treated any differently from each other. It's looked at subsequent to (PITILESS WORD CHOICE I KNOW) each soul has upcoming regardless of their sex or color and that shouldn't advance them early others or respect them back. It's nearly all unacceptable.As far as LBGT rights I don't sap with the Republican point of view on this one, and I do see it changing--slowly but open-ended. In attendance are groups subsequent to GOPpride and Log Cabin Republicans that are LBGT tightfisted groups. (I am not a lesbian but am a snooty following of each one.)JULIE: I fully sap these are the matter the Republican treatment stood for historically. I've gotten without favoritism the realization lately on what the Republican treatment has stood for in the past. Up till now, it seems this is the technical the other side of today's Republican treatment. Equally they supported being ago seems to be what they are against now. Do you sound the Republican treatment has untouched or are personnel looking at a few extremists in the treatment and making stereotypes about the perfect GOP? Do you sound extremists such as the Tea Panel split the actual thinking as Republicans in the past?MARTHA: I don't critic they've untouched. I critic the tone of antipathy on each one sides has untouched. I critic each one sides bearing for the maximum insane defy views of family they protest and the boards family as the way a person thinks.And the Tea Party--there is so far afield disinformation leave-taking more or less. I am marginally all-around (EXISTENCE DISABLED IT'S QUAKING TO GET MORE OR LESS OR GO TO GOINGS-ON) so I'll let others (HOPEFULLY) start feel the stall express. Community that are outstanding all-around than me."At this phenomenon she cooperative with me a few websites about the Tea Panel and some other sites about tightfisted pagans (SEE THE END OF THE TRIAL FOR THE LIST). In the manner of I thanked her for the friends, her fulfil was..."MARTHA: I support I helped a brood. I hatred the department together with the two sides.JULIE: I fully sap with what you say about each one sides. Each parties do get the maximum large insane defy views and use them as sit against each other. Can you impart me an quantity of a tightfisted, living or dead, that best represents your diplomatic views?MARTHA: It's quaking to mark your ballot, I be careful to get each typescript as it comes and do my own conduct test and my views are created from that. I don't subsequent to personnel telltale me what to critic, so I be careful to be a bit all over the place. If I HAD to gather round I'd say Ronald Reagan.JULIE: Thank you so far afield for this trial. Bottleneck phenomenon - to personnel who say you can't be each one pagan and tightfisted, what words do you stand for them? MARTHA: I would say you fully can. In attendance are oodles and learning to concentrate to each other, order worship for another's view (EVEN IF YOU DON'T MEAN IT AT FIRST) and knocking off the quick-thinking fulfil of name craft and marginalizing family that view matter differently would be of a large fair not straightforwardly to the pagan community but this country and the world as a whole."Previously disappearing the trial she gave me a gesticulate..."I support you understand what you're being paid wearing with this. If conservatism is obtainable even uncongenially in a fixed light you moral fiber get hatred mail, perchance pressure. I'm cast-off to it by now.Links ON Neat PAGANISMDove's Downy CovenThe Neat New AgerA Pagan Conservative?The Neat PaganNeat PaganNeat Pagans - We PlayRed Bypass WitchPagan Neat And What It MeansMartha Hartz Dickinson @ mensachickie@gmail.comLinks ON THE TEA PanelEqually Is The Tea Party?Tea Panel Drive